LORD NELSONS FLAGSHIP, a photo from Hampshire, England

Photographer's Note

LORD NELSONS FLAGSHIP

I had to reach deep into my archives for this ancient slide, shot in early 1973. The HMS Victory is the world's oldest continually commissioned ship, and certainly the British Navy's most famous warship. Built between 1759-1765, the Victory served as the flagship of Vice Admiral Horatio Nelsons fleet, leading a group of 27 British ships against a much larger combined Franco/Spanish fleet at the Battle off Cape Trafalgar in 1805. The British won the battle decisively! But Lord Nelson, while pacing the quarterdeck with his captain, was mortally wounded by an enemy sharp shooters musket. History records that he survived just long enough to learn the outcome of the battle. But then his body had to be taken all the way from the the area of Toulon on the French Riviera back to England. Accordingly, they pickled it in a barrel of brandy, and returned to England to hold a state funeral for England's most famous naval hero. Trekearth members who know London know the high column at Trafalgar Square, atop which Nelson's statue now stands.

Sitting in a dry dock in Portsmouth in southern England, the beautifully preserved ship is open to visitors who can view the once overcrowded decks where hundreds of men lived, worked and perished, the cabin where the battle was planned, and indeed the spot where Lord Nelson died.

The Victory's elaborate figurehead featured prominently in this photograph include a pair of cupids supporting the royal coat of arms, which is, in turn, topped with the royal crown. The motto on the crest bears the inscription in Latin, Honi Soit Qui Mal y Pense, (Shame to him who evil thinks). I am dedicating this photograph to Steve Branley, who served for 19-years in the Royal Navy, and is now engaged in rescuing lives from helicopters in the North Sea. (His recent photo is one of the most dramatic in all of TE.)

The ship's specs include Material: weathered oak; Gun-deck length: 56.7 meters (186 feet); overall length: 69.2 meters (227 feet); Width at the beam 15.8 meters (51 feet-10 inches); Draft: 8.8 meters (28 feet 9 inches); Gross weight: 2,162 tons; Number of guns: 104; Number of crew: 850; Speed 8 to 9 knots.

Nikon F mounted with a 50-mm fixed focal length f/1.4 lens. Kodachrome-25 slide film, recently scanned.

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robertosalguero (292) 2008-05-08 21:27

Hello Bulent,

The coat of arms add a nice detail to this ship. I wonder at the amount of restoration they do on this ship to keep it afloat for such a long time. Your scan is very good and you managed to preserve details very well. The colours look soft and natural. Your historical anecdote is interesting and give us valuable information. Thanks Bulent.

Roberto

jusninasirun (17529) 2008-05-08 21:28

Hello Bulent. Excellent shot with the structure making the subject and the emblem is super sharp and excellent detail. Well done and best regards. Jusni

gracious (20025) 2008-05-08 21:39

Merhaba Bulent,
Selam!!
Excellent details on this flagship even from the scan!
the exposure and focus is perfect with the full sharpness and wonderful colours!
many thanks for the useful and informative notes
best regards
Tony

burGu (4840) 2008-05-08 23:33

Merhaba Bulent Bey,
Belge niteligindeki fotografiniz ve bilgilendirici notunuza hayran kaldim. Gemi armalari konusunda korsan gemilerin otesine gecemeyen benim gibi biri icin gercekten cok guzel..
Ayrica arsivinizin derinligine de sonsuz saygi duydum.
Eski ve tarama bir fotograf olmasina ragmen netligi harika...Ellerinize saglik.
Saygilar,
Burcu

ChrisJ (171822) 2008-05-08 23:57

Merhaba Bulent

Wonderful graphism, of dark fg objects & rigging, against the lighter toned bg, with excellemt sharpness & colour. Tfs!

TGULUMSER (13252) 2008-05-09 1:49

Hello Bulent Bey,
A very nice detail of this beautiful ship. Your POV is excellent as always,
Best regards,
Tulay

azaf1 (15931) 2008-05-09 2:40

Hi Bulent
A really lovely captureof the famous ship. I just love those lines of the ropes creating a great geometric composition. It's very clear and sharp and the colors just beautiful.
My respects
Argiris

jonathan_hart (21276) 2008-05-09 3:20

a nightmare for french army... good framing showing this detail of this ship, although i was young i remember well that visit was very interesting
regards
jo

mesutilgim (0) 2008-05-09 4:43

Selam sevgili Bόlent,
Bu da muheşem bir kare ! Ηok iyi bakış aηısı, keyifli renk ve detaylar. Ve de her zamanki gibi mόkemmel bilgiler.
Tebrikler
Selam ve sevgiler
MESUT ILGIM

zmey (7335) 2008-05-09 7:24

merhaba bulent

nice work with this ship and your old slide. superb clarity for a scan and your composition definitely shows the mind boggling complexity of sail-ships. excellent note too.

warm regards,
kristaps

pablominto (53746) 2008-05-09 9:15

Hello Bulent,
Amazing! 35 years and superb clarity in colours...
Of course slides are a much better medium as compared to paper print when it comes to storing images over a long period of time...
An interesting composition full of sharp fine details, well done back then!
Greetings,
Pablo -

setenay (7706) 2008-05-09 9:46

Bόlent Bey Merhaba,
Detayların netliği, renklerin doğallığı ve kadrajın mόkemmelliği ile gφz alıcı bir belgesel fotoğraf.Gemiyi yakından gφrmόş kadar oldum.Zengin arşiviniz iηin ayrıca kutlarım.Elinize sağlık,iyi hafta sonu dileği ile saygı ve selamlarımla.
setenay

Wandering_Dan (3449) 2008-05-09 11:15

Hello, Bulent -

OK, you beat me in the archive game!

Interesting historical shot - and even more interesting note. I do like the sweep of the orange beams leading to the shield on the bow. But I am bothered, as always in such a scene, with all the ropes going all over the place. The lower left section is good enough to take my mind off them for a while, but eventually I keep coming back to the messy lines. I have almost never managed to get a decent picture with lines like that (in my case it's usually telephone wires that get in the way), so I am feeling a little frustrated over it as I look at this picture - it does a better job than most.

But, we shall persevere!

Best,
Dan

carper (96) 2008-05-09 11:21

very famous ship out your archive 1973 Bulent.
a nice pov here, I think that you with the knowledge of photography what you have now in you, you will made the shot not on the same way. I like the boat and the very good note of yours, very good trekearth job here my friend.
gr. jaap

avene (12675) 2008-05-09 12:38

merhaba Bulent,
I think you have chosen a very wise approach in showing this magnificient ship - to concentrate on the details. and what you have included in the phoyo illustrates very well her beauty and power [I try to remember that a ship is ALWAYS "she" :)]. the tight composition works perfectly to create a strong sense of presence, and for a scan of a 35 year-old slide the quality is impeccable. as usual, excellent note, thanks :)

with best regards,
Kristine

yedirenk (11244) 2008-05-09 13:20

merhaba Bόlent bey,
Işık netlik ve detaylar enfes.renkler ηok doğal.farklı bir kadraj.elinize sağlık.selamlar.

Cevdet

emka (158128) 2008-05-09 14:46

Hi Bulent,

Wonderful photo otf the famous ship. Very well preserved, the ship and your ancient slide. It has superb quality. IOnteresting story about lord Nelson. The motto is the motto of the Order of the Garter, I think. Can ship be decorated? I think that I saw Victory in 1978, but I am not sure. I made also slides but they are not the quality as yours.

Warm regards

Malgorzata

jhm (211736) 2008-05-10 0:43

Hello friend Bulent,

A old picture for a old boat, this is very applicable.
You did very well with this scanned picture, certainly with the escutcheon as real eye catcher.
Excellent detailed and very good composed.
very well done, thanks for sharing.

Have a nice weekend,
John.

feather (51130) 2008-05-10 11:05

What an excellent job you have done with the scan and PP. It looks as fresh as the day it was taken. The detail is clear and sharp with well preserved colours. As usual a well researched note.
Kath

salvator (19110) 2008-05-10 13:26

Hello Bulent Bey,
What can I say? The pov you have chosen to take this shot, the tight crop, and the lines, the ones entering the composition from the lower and upper right, the red portion of the vessel entering from the lower left are very nice and I don't think they are there by pure luck. Superbly shot.
I wish you an excellent weekend. Best personal regards. Salvator.

stego (24132) 2008-05-10 13:39

Hello Bόlent,
It's hard to believe that this is a scan of a slide 35 years old. Those Kodachromes were really something and together with an excellent scan allow us to see that your talent for composing and shooting comes from far in time.
Insightful and interesting note note, as usual.
TFS, Regards, Josι.

chpp (4283) 2008-05-10 15:57

Hi Buloent
very nice shot, with lots of details on the ship. Good colours and light
have a nice weekend
chris

AiresSantos (56155) 2008-05-10 18:50

Hi Bulent
Excellent shot of the Lord Nelsons FlagShip. I like the graphism, sharpness and exposure
TFS and have a nice weekend
Aires

Silversnow (2319) 2008-05-11 7:17

Ahhh, the famous HMS Victory!
The ships of the line mounting more than a 100 guns were rare, being so heavy, and rarely seeing much action, being so expensive, but that one saw the greatest of sea battles of the age of sail, the Battle of Trafalgar and the death of the great
Admiral Nelson.

Very nice framing, as we've come to expect from you ;)
This is truly a massive ship I hope to be able to visit someday, the peak of full rigged ship evolution.

Cretense (68709) 2008-05-11 12:32

Hi Bulent!

Excellent "detail", despite the "mess" with the ropes in the background the eye "falls" straight away to this figurehead. Impressive quality for such an old scanned photo. Your note is, as always, very interesting! Congratulations and thanks for sharing!

Warm regards,
Hercules

danyy (0) 2008-05-11 14:56

Bonjour Bulent,
une vue riche qui ne laisse pas un cm² sans dιtails.
Nette ΰ souhait et parfaitement exposιe, elle montre un art de construire et dιcorer des navires, bien perdu de nos jours.
Regards.
Daniel.

Henryk_Bilor (20803) 2008-05-12 0:58

Hi Bulent
Great old image showing this very interesting and important detail of the ship.
Have a nice day.

papagolf21 (152607) 2008-05-12 1:03

Bonjour, mon bon ami Bulent,
Ce que je remarque en premier c'est cette magnifique figure de proue qui donne le ton ΰ l'ensemble.
Le cadrage judicieusement choisi donne ΰ l'ensemble une grande beautι.
Les appareils argentiques possιdaient quoique l'on en dise une qualitι remarquable.
Addenda : Merci, cher Bulent, quant au lien relatif aux conte ou lιgende du joueur de flϋte, je ne connaissais pas ce rιcit.
Excellente journιe.
Amitiιs.
Philippe

zeynepe (0) 2008-05-12 11:22

Merhaba Bόlent Bey,
Scan edildiğine inanamadım harika bir netlik ve renkler. Notlarınız ve fotoğraflarınızla sόrekli gόzel şeyler φğreniyoruz. Zira gemi ve armalar konusunda ηok sığ bilgiye sahibim.
Harika bir kompozisyon,
Tebrikler,
Zeynep

paololg (31448) 2008-05-12 15:52

Ciao Bulent,
stupendous detail of the Victory, perhaps the most famous British war ship. Surely the most famous among the vessels of first rank of the '700. The particular one of the figurehead under the bowsprit magnificently opposes with the intersections of the ropes of manoeuvre. Very beautiful, compliments.
Ciao
Paolo

zeca (19762) 2008-05-12 21:31

Hello Bulent!!
Excellent composition, with a nice framing on this piece of ship! The graphism is very nice and I also like to see all the details captured. Great perspective! Well taken, my friend!
Regards,
Zeca

MLINES (12516) 2008-05-13 0:53

Hi Bulent, A fine, if older photo it doesn't show. The story about the history of the ship and its importance to England at the time is excellent. Recently we visited the Marine Museum in Barcelona, after the conference there and they have a full sized Galleon inside. Wonderful place as Spain a seafearing nation. TFS. Murray.

saylan-cb (12738) 2008-05-13 2:07

Merhaba Bόlent,
Bu karenizdeki bakış aηınız ηok gόzel.Detaylar,netlik ve bilgilendirici notuzla harika bir belgesel.
Emeğinize sağlık
Selamlar/Saygılar

Didi (61589) 2008-05-14 2:57

Hi Bulent
In France we have The French victory names on streets or Railways station like Gare d'Austerlitz, avenue d'Iena, funny this difference :)
Very nice point of view on this part of the ship.
Very good scan quality.
Salam aleikum.

bostankorkulugu (42866) 2008-05-14 6:27

gφrdόğόm en etkileyici gemi -her ne kadar victory ile aynı kategoride değerlendirmek zorsa da- stokolmdeki "vasa" idi... notunuzu okuduktan sonra victory'den de etkilenmemek mόmkόn değil sevgili profesφr...

sevgi ve saygılarımla... (kuzeyi φpόyorum sizin iηin:)...)

korkut

alvaraalto (42804) 2008-05-14 13:11

Hi Bulent,

History in shipbuilding, but also almost in photography.
Excellent digitized result of the classic figurehead. And again my complement for the added info.

Groet Rob

tehanu_f (6896) 2008-05-15 0:42

Ben bunun Thames'de durdugunu saniyordum. Orada da "HMS bisey bisey" diye bir gemi sergileniyor. Nelson'in diye kalmis aklimda. Bu gemi cok iyi korunmus, gicir gicir duruyor. Sizin bakis aciniz da cok guzel bir detay sunmus. Elinize saglik.
Fusun

Angshu (56760) 2008-05-17 21:41

Hello Professor "A"
35 years on & the colours & quality of your scan is very good. The coat of arms actually is an eye puller with it's lovely details. Like the graphic impact of the rows, mast & bow along the vertical frame. As always an excellent, informative note to accompany.
With Warm Regards
Angshuman

Graal (103040) 2008-05-19 23:13

Hi Bulent,
good documental shot and informations. Nice vertical format, well composed image. Unusual famous ship. Good work.
Gr., Aleksander

jemaflor (147104) 2008-05-20 4:12

Hi Bulent,
Well taken this close up, good choce and frame with all these lines in the right side with a blue sky for background, interesting shot.

Greg1949 (9011) 2008-05-21 8:58

Bulent, interestingly your shot is not too long afer my visit to this historic ship and the HM Dockyard in Porsmouth, I think mine was 1969, but you were much more advanced photographically than I for my shots are the standary distance ones trying to get the most of it in. I like this for the detail, it is uch a magnificant machine built with such attention to detail that it is almost incomprehensible to those no yet having had the chance to visit her. Your capture is very good and like Bob Hope used to say, thanks for the memories" or in this case refreshing them.

Greg

meltemi (0) 2008-05-21 12:48

Hello Bulent,
I like the superb upward point of view and the excellent graphism of the dark masts and bow against the lighter blue sky, which gives also a sense of majesty to this old sail ship. Good sharpness and repetition of the ropes and ladders, eye catching indeed.
Fascinating note, that is one of your trademark.
Wish you all the best.
Stella

JCG (35153) 2008-05-21 12:53

Hi Bόlent,

I am impressed by qualities of this photograph in spite of his 35 years!!! The detail of the blazon is of a very beautiful clearness. This tangle of cords gives an interesting graphic side to the image. Pretty scan and thank you for this note for historical background instructive.

With all my friendships and with soon,

Jean-Charles

KemaLMerT (12048) 2008-05-25 9:11

alabildiğine karmaşık, alabildiğine gόzel ve başarılı.
selamlar, sevgiler.

gunbud (34066) 2008-06-09 18:23

Hello Bulent,
Wonderful piece of grand history capture here. The details to the mast emblem are fantastic! Great vertical presentation with beautiful lines from the great riggings. Excellent historic note to go along with this 35 year old image.
Regards, Tom

kdialyna (3148) 2008-06-13 22:36

Good morning dear Bulent.
A very good photographed detail with the ropes to be a very interesting background for it.
Is very interesting how a such an old slide (35 years), kept the colors in such a good condition.
Best regards
Kostas

BWJ (3094) 2008-06-17 8:53

Hello Bulent,
This picture has many nice components. Your POV highlighting the curves and angles gives great perspective. Detailing in Victory's figurehead is clear and sharp. Your comment about Lord Nelson is interesting; overall an excellent lesson in history. Outstanding!
bj

paura (25802) 2008-07-18 13:54

Bulent,
A very interesting composition, full of beautiful colors and interesting shapes. Nice management to show all those vivid details. well done!

abraηo

Paulo

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Copyright: Bulent Atalay (batalay) (41261)
Genre: Τοποθεσίες
Medium: Έγχρωμο
Date Taken: 1973-01-00
Categories: Αποφασιστική στιγμή
Camera: Nikon F
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Date Submitted: 2008-05-08 21:13

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