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Old 11-01-2006, 12:11 AM
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wrong. No one needs permission to ask to shoot. Even with publishing you dont need permission unless the shot is being used to make money. For example you need permission if it will be used for advertising but NOT if it will be used for documentary.
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Old 11-01-2006, 07:28 AM
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Well, M S S , you issue was about the legality of taking pictures in public places. And a guy getting investigated by federal agents for taking pictures in public places is not really off point. It merely illustrates the point that, in some places, and in the world today, there are legal issues about taking such pictures that go way beyond the reaction of the average guy. Fear of terrorism has clearly become an issue for photographers in some places, making what was once an innocent occupation appear threatening. The legal minefield is becoming ever more dangerous.
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Old 11-01-2006, 12:06 PM
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i would say, read the article i linked to,but it is in german.
i guess you just do not understand the german laws.
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Old 11-01-2006, 12:11 PM
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"Einen gesetzlichen Schutz gewδhrt das Recht am eigenen Bild. Nach den §§ 22 - 24 und 33 - 50 Kunst-Urheber-Gesetz (KuUHG) bedarf die Verφffentlichung einer Abbildung einer Person grundsδtzlich deren Einverstδndnis."
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Old 11-01-2006, 12:25 PM
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You are telling me that newspaper and magazine photographers ask for permission before shooting? Seriously? I dont believe it.
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:09 PM
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The whole issue is complex. The reality is though, there are very few circumstances in which you can be legally prohibited from taking pictures. On someones private land is one, if they ask you not to. Certainly some military instalations. Other than that it is important that we photographers stand up for our rights, and don't give in to peoples paranoia. The media whip us a storm, particularly in America, or any Fox/Murdoch media, so you get the situation of passengers taking pictures of you, as indicated by Hoorge. I was asked to leave a train station yesterday by stewards, "You can't take pictures here", I gave in on this occasion as I had to return to work, but in future I shall be asking for proof, and that includes any law enforcement officer. I've been asked to move on etc by police before, because it suits them, or allows their ego to grow by excercising power, but we need to stand up and ask for proof that what we are doing is illegal, otherwise we'll be reduced to family snaps and flowers as has already been said, and I for one don't have the desire for either. Don't get into trouble, but don't give in to paranoia or power crazy stewards/police/security officials.
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Old 11-01-2006, 01:48 PM
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i do not believe that either, but it seems to be the law here.
you are right, i guess nobody would ask and normally nobody cares,
but if you would see a photo of you which you did not
give your permission for, you could go to court.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:04 PM
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You could not take a person to court for taking a picture of you in a public place. Unless you were perhaps in an intimate situation somewhere secluded. That is, if you have taken steps to secure privacy and it is infringed, but walking in a street, sitting in a cafe etc, no, they can't sue. Perhaps if you have used to image to make a profit then they can make a financial claim against you or the publisher.
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Old 11-01-2006, 02:43 PM
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which is what I said. No one has the right to sto you from taking photos in public. If a cop tries to stop you tell him off. Sue if you are in any way manhandled by him. We are in our right to take photos in public.
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Old 11-02-2006, 02:17 PM
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The story by hoorge - quite a sad one... it shows how mass paranoia grows to the level that photographers will feel intimidated despite no legal reason for that...
I would say: don't care - just print something like business cards with your name on them and give them away to the people who shoot you with mobile phones in order to report to the police/ guards - just to make their life easier ;)...
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