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Old 09-15-2006, 10:25 PM
Homerhomer Homerhomer is offline
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reading the thread about stock agencies an idea was born in my head (it probably should stay there;-) about attempts to sell, and I would like to hear what others have to say about the experience.

I know some of you are actually doing it with less or more success, we know Mario is a pioneer in this category ;-). Would like to hear your opinions, experiences and advice.

I know many of you have actually thought of doing it (as evident in the stock discussion), but for some reason didn't take the next step. Would also like to hear your experiences.

My initial idea is not to take pictures of bugs (Mario,this will hunt you for the rest of your life even when you make so much money and lough at me poor little bug;-), nor even try to take what I read are suitable stock images, but simply pic few of my favourites as I go and take it from there. Also thought of getting together with a small group (say two to five individuals who share very similar photographic interests) to join forces and perhaps open one smug smug account to share costs and have more quality images in one account by the virtue of being a group.

Anyway looking forward to your testimonies.
Peter
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Old 09-15-2006, 10:39 PM
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I like the idea of getting together as a group. Frankly, that way, we can share knowledge between our peers and maybe start a kind of a company, although that maybe taking it too far, what with people living in different countries and all.
How about having a website...Just an idea. You can pooh! pooh! it if you like...
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Old 09-16-2006, 02:41 AM
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Default Re: so selling photographs?!?

I too have considered selling once I have master my cam better as some og my photos now are OK but are they really sellable at this point? But my main question is is there an inexpensive or maybe free site where I can post images and sell or if there is a charge it's maybe based on sale so if I sell say X photo for say $10 I get X amount and the site takes X amount. Are there sites like this where I can sort of test the water some without getting drowned doing so? Don't have extra to really spend but if I could sell a few then maybe a better pay site might be possible. Just don't want to be forking out money I don't have to test the waters and sure most of you know the feeling.

But anyways anyone know of some sites where a beginner can test the waters or maybe as mentioned in this thread where several could go in together.
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Old 09-19-2006, 01:08 AM
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Hi Peter,

yeah, I have had similar thoughts before... and there are some photogs here with photos that would make some good money. I have sold some photos... but to really do it you must be out pounding the pavement, so to speak, drumming up business. I have an account on Photoshelter, but that hasn't helped me much since I haven't devoted enough time to marketing the images... nor to clean up all my crap and cut it down to the basics.

I think it would be a great idea to put together a small TE photo agency... but, to actually sell photos... it is more work that to just take the shot.

Narayan
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Old 09-19-2006, 08:11 PM
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Peter,
There's at least two kind of stock markets: Microstock and regular stock agencies.

MICROSTOCK:
is aimmed for publications; magazines; prints; school papers and so on as... you will find everything there, from landscapes to people, fashion, still life, small objects... and bugs :D

There are a bunch of free sites to post photos, and they pay per download: Shutterstock (25c); fotolia and dreamstime (1$) and many more... as for me, shutterstock is the best one, they pay less but sell lot more...

http://www.shutterstock.com/gallery.mhtml?id=57556

This is the link to my photos there, as you can see for yourself, no bugs in there... just ordinary photos that to be honest would in other way be rotting in my hard drive... in 1 1/5 month i've earned 60$ in total of sites; beeing 50$ from shutterstock.

As you can see i have just 54 photos there, and excluding a couple of "home made" photos, i don't go out and shoot for microstocks... i just post there my sentimental unvalue shots. I have two opcions: Delete them or earn some money.... i choosed the second option ;)

But i don't waste my "great" shots (if i have any) on microstock sites...

Reminder: NO BUGS (for now eheheh)

STOCK LIBRARIES:
This is more serious stock; aimed for the final consumer looking for that "punchy" image i believe i would like to have in my living room wall, or like artprints. This requires great images; outstanding treatment and post-prodution; magic in them...

You know Maciej, i don't know how's he doing with smugmug, but i've read one topic from him saying that "AT THAT TIME" (quite some time ago) just one photo was sold in smugmug... maybe Maciej can help us here.

This will be my natural next step... nothing to loose, everything to win i believe. Maybe I will start with my own project in Pbase (maybe...) for internal market and then if the reaction is good maybe i will go worldwide...

Your idea of a unique smugmug account is interesting and for sure an idea to follow up
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Old 09-19-2006, 09:38 PM
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ok, thanks for the replies so far, all give me further arguments that the idea should stay in my head.

Narayan, as you say this would require serious effort, guess no different than any other business, good product, good idea and hard work, not sure if this is something I am willing to engage in, after all this is a perfectly fine hobby as is.

Mario, Maciek just wrote to me that smug-smug is complete waste of time and money, and if he doesn't sell who will? Yet the idea of some possibilites somehow somewhere of a group effort, if not for selling then for something (am I giving away too much concrete details ;-) else may still be valid in some capacity, hmmm.

Thanks for your open insight on stock, I see from your own pics that they aren't just something that you have snapped, there is some effort put to them to create visually pleasing yet very simple pics, that sells I guess. God knows that my camera is collecting dust probably 27 days in a month and I could use some extra money since I have bills galore, perhaps wasting time doing microstock would be better than wasting time infront of computer or tv. Possibly one can even benefit from it and learn about light etc etc, but 25c per is a bit scary. On the other hand regular stock library is something that would require much more effort and as a whole pay even less, I somehow guess any of my regular images aren't suitable for any sales..... anyone wants to buy black and white blurry image of a hooker..... well lot's of porn business out there ;-)
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Old 09-19-2006, 10:51 PM
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Yep, i though smug-mug could be a waste of time, thanks for clear that for me :P

Don't underestimate your photos Peter, they have superior quality and impressive message attached. maybe some of them stand alone may not work or gather the praise they deserve, but as a whole they work in perfection.

Keep shoting fast and furious
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Old 09-19-2006, 11:47 PM
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Well, I did buy one of your photos Peter! So I guess there was at least one suitable for a sale. But maybe I am a peculiar one! ;)

... And let me remind you that I had a hard time to pay you since you were adamant in accepting only to have a coffee in exchange to your photo!!!

Have a good evening!

Claire
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:07 AM
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dear Claire, you are my best customer, don't let the fact that you are my only customer take anything away from it, you are the best by a country mile, and you always will be........(most likely you will always be my only customer as well,)
Peter
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Old 09-20-2006, 12:33 AM
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Default Re: so selling photographs?!?

no pay site is going to be "worth it" if it is not marketed... but you know, when I googled photos for Tajikistan, Trek Earth is the first place that shows up. now, no major editors are using google to find their images, but just goes to show that anyone can find your images without having to have an pay site like Smug Mug, Photoshelter or DigitalRailroad.

The quality of images (from some photographers) on TE is better than what you can find in normal stock agencies... but the problem is that nothing here is professional... and if there was a group of people on TE that presented themselves as pros they could get a lot of money from what has otherwise been a hobby. Again, though, it is all moot if no one puts time into trying to sell them. In fact, with such a group in diverse regions of the world, there is not just the possibility of selling images already made, but also through assignment.
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